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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete — Nearly Headless Nick {L} 12:21, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Scene (subculture)

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This is a terrible article about an alleged subculture, which is actually just a flattering name for 'trendiness'. I culled a vast chunk of original research from the article (which I can testify from personal experience is a load of crap: metal has not 'stagnated' with 'nu-metal' which isn't actually metal), and truth be told the 'criticism' section is original research too, although largely valid. What is left, then, is a definition which largely mirror that found in the 'urban dictionary'. There have not, as far as I can see from Google, been sociological studies of 'scene' as there have of goth, punk, metal, etc. In short, this is not a verifiable topic, it is probably just a slang word of a particular sort of trendiness, and hence not a valid subject for an encyclopedia article, belonging more properly to a dictionary The Crying Orc 21:05, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • The 'newer' version is indeed more encyclopedic: less POV about trendy 'emo' 'fashioncore' nonsense. Only, it is, as it stands, largely a pointless fork of the subculture article: while there is a semantic difference between the words 'scene' and the word 'subculture' (e.g. "I am part of the metal subculture but the metal scene is slowly dying"), clearing up this semantic difference is a job for the dictionary, not an encyclopedia. The Crying Orc 13:11, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I have merged the content to Youth subculture Paul foord 10:03, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep you guys that want to delete it don't really know what sence is, I often hang out with scene kids...most of mty friends are scene, so I say keep it. jwlx 21:05, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep stop going all wiki-elite and deleting everything you, personally, don't observe, just because you don't, doesn't mean no one else does.
  • Keep this is just as valid of a youth subculture as "gangster" or "skinhead" or anything else is. 75.11.191.3
  • Keep A term used to describe the current trend of social integration in youths. We do have pages on specific trends, its why we cover Mod era and punk. "Scene" is very much a real thing and the fact the original nomination suggests a "cull" before it was nom'd means this is not the proper article, simply a bastardised one intended to weaken supporters cause.--I'll bring the food 22:58, 2 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • REVISE"Scene" should definately be in Wikipedia, but there's so much more to the subculture than is in this article. The Scene is a huge part of the 15+ generation. It's not well-written and not very explanatory for people that haven't come in contact either with the scene or individual's within it/
  • Keep Scene is so important to understanding this generation. Let's revise this in an intelligent and scientific (if possible) manner. This is an encyclopedia, let's be adults about this.
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